Second Life Bar Association Meeting TranscriptJune 14, 2008
Solomon Cortes: Welcome everyone. Thanks for coming today.
Solomon Cortes: Shall we start?
Theophan Paine: Do you need a motion for that?
Julynn Lilliehook: I move we start
Solomon Cortes: Before we move to the formal agenda, I'd like to congratulate Ben on behalf of the SLBA on becoming a father six days ago.
Colleen Kesey: YAY
Theophan Paine: Congrats Ben!
Solomon Cortes: Well done Ben. We wish you all every happiness together!
Ida Recreant: Hi Colleen; good to see you
Ida Recreant: Congratulations Ben
Benjamin Noble: Thanks, Solomon. It's been a sleepless week, but so much fun. I'm not going to be able to stay for too long but wanted to talk about agenda #1, so am at least dropping in.
Benjamin Noble: Thanks, everybody.
Solomon Cortes: Yes, we appreciate that.
Julynn Lilliehook: Elections again, already?
Solomon Cortes: So let's move to that, with also a welcome to all the new faces at today's meeting. And a reminder that this is a public meeting. The transcript will be posted on the forums.
Solomon Cortes: So, Ben, it's almost election time.
Solomon Cortes: I'd be very grateful if you could tell people about the roles and the process.
Solomon Cortes: Thanks for dropping by today to do this.
Benjamin Noble: Sure, Solomon. Thanks for putting this first.
Benjamin Noble: So yes, it's election time.
Benjamin Noble: When we set this up and put it in the bylaws, we decided to stagger elections so that there was always some institutional memory.
Benjamin Noble: So we elect everyone in the summer, but the new president does not take over until the end of January. The other offices -- two vice presidents and three executive board member -- take on their new roles August 1.
Benjamin Noble: The president will be "President Elect" until the end of January. Like Solomon was for August - January last year. That gives the president elect a chance to really learn how meetings work, etc. before taking over.
Benjamin Noble: Very briefly, I first really want to encourage *everyone* with any interest to consider running.
Benjamin Noble: If you think you might be a good fit for a job, talk to the current officers, find out more about their roles, and toss your hat in the ring.
Benjamin Noble: Real life bar associations tend to have two or three candidates for many positions, and even running is good experience, and might position you for the job later, even if you aren't successful immediately.
Benjamin Noble: That said, we're a small group, and uncontested elections are fine.
Benjamin Noble: The way we did this last year was people self-nominated in the forums.
Benjamin Noble: Then elections took place, with about a week for voting, so everyone got a chance.
Benjamin Noble: They'll be held in the last half of July, so you've got lots of time to think about it.
Benjamin Noble: A few common questions - first, the roles are what you make them, but you should plan on about 10 hours a month, at least.
Benjamin Noble: The president will likely put in more than that, but that is a practical minimum, so make sure you have that time.
Julynn Lilliehook had a bad experience running for local bar president in RL recently.
Benjamin Noble: You probably have a sense what the President does already.
Benjamin Noble: The most important part of it is being organized, and a good communicator.
Julynn Lilliehook: Write books and make babies?
Benjamin Noble: The VP roles are really critical. VP Communication would, ideally, be someone like Henri, who has some SL building experience, but web experience would be great too.
Lincoln Beck: lol
Benjamin Noble grins. Those are secondary skills.
Benjamin Noble: VP Finance requires organizational skills and probably some basic spreadsheet ability.
Benjamin Noble: Those two roles are great ways to get more experience with administration if you are thinking of perhaps running for president later, as you participate in all the executive board meetings (which we have right before this meeting, to set the agenda, etc.)
Benjamin Noble: That bring us to the e-board itself, which is comprised of the officers (Pres, Pres-Elect, VPs) and any former presidents, and three members.
Benjamin Noble: The three members are elected each year.
Benjamin Noble: These are also great roles to get more into administration, and are totally what you make them.
Benjamin Noble: For example, Cat has totally overhauled the website and set up a social network for the group.
Benjamin Noble: E-board members also participate in all e-board meetings, set the agenda, and spend time talking to new members.
Benjamin Noble: So that's the basics -- the details are in the bylaws, in the forums. I'll paste a link in, or maybe somebody else can?
Benjamin Noble: And I'd be happy to take questions here or afterward, however you want to do it, Solomon...
Lincoln Beck:
http://www.slba.info/slbabylaws.html
Solomon Cortes: Ben - I know you're tight for time, so can I just ask if there are any quick questions for Ben now?
Benjamin Noble nods. Also, asking the people who curently have the roles will get you great information.
Solomon Cortes: Ben - in terms of process, would it work to announce in the forums that we're open for nominations at the beginning of July. We could then have presentations at the July meeting by those standing, say, if any of the positions are contested, and then have the voting start after the meeting?
Solomon Cortes: If that doesn't work, perhaps you could give us an idea of how these timings might work?
Benjamin Noble: Sure. The procedure is flexible. Last year, we didn't have formal presentations, but people put in self-nominating statements. But I was just winging it then, as I didn't have a board yet, or any officers to bounce ideas off of. I think that sounds good though, and maybe a brief discussion on procedures makes sense, even perhaps with a formal motion at the end. Re timing....
Benjamin Noble: Re timing... I think having them happen right after the next meeting would be great, as people will hear about them there. On the other hand, you could have nominations for a week or two following the next meeting, and then elections in the last week. I don't have a strong opinion, either would work. Maybe open for discussion?
Benjamin Noble: I'll grab a seat in the back for now, but may have to duck off. Feel free to IM me with other questions.
Solomon Cortes: Thanks Ben.
Solomon Cortes: Any comments / questions now from anyone on the proposals re process / timings?
Solomon Cortes: Okay - well, I'll assume not for the time being. But please feel free to contact me or Ben or any of the other officer if you do have questions.
Solomon Cortes: And look out for the notices in world and in the forums that will confirm the process. And feel free to ask any questions about the roles or the election process in the forums, too, if you wish.
Solomon Cortes: Before we move off the topic, I'd like formally to thank all those whose roles are coming up for election for the fine work and true commitment that they have done this year for the organization. I think you've achived great things for the association. I very much hope that you will all remain active association - and that perhaps some of you may even consider standing again. A big 'thank you' to you all.
Solomon Cortes: And, finally, like Ben, I do want to encourage every member who is interested to consider standing for a role in the July elections.
Solomon Cortes: Ben, thanks again for taking the time to drop by today. I think we should thank you and let you go back to your family now!
Solomon Cortes: Next, we have more news about the upcoming seminar series. Geri, would you provide a quick update please?
Benjamin Noble: Thanks. I've got Charlotte in my arms now and it looks like it's feeding time at the zoo. Catch you all later.
Solomon Cortes: Thanks Ben - enjoy!
Geri Kuhn: Sure
Geri Kuhn: So we have an awesome series planned
Geri Kuhn: First, starting on July 15
Geri Kuhn: we will have Solomon speak on Intro to Virtual Worlds Legal Issues
Ida Recreant: Cool Geri
Geri Kuhn: Next, although not yet confirmed for the date we will have Juris Amat speak on Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement in Virtual Environments, hopefully for July 22
Geri Kuhn: On July 29, Thephan Paine will be speaking on internet Fraud
Geri Kuhn: On September 9, Legal Writer will be speaking about Trademark infringement on virtual worlds
Geri Kuhn: And on September 16, Cat Galielo will be speaking about Internet legal research
Geri Kuhn: All Seminars will take place at 12:00 noon, SL time.
Geri Kuhn: The incoming president of the UK Law Society will be present at the first seminar to give a brief opening welcoming introduction
Geri Kuhn: And the president of the California State Bar has been invited as well.
Geri Kuhn: Cat Galileo is seeking CLE accrediation so that lawyers in Calif may obtain CLE credit.
Geri Kuhn: So that is it so far.
Solomon Cortes: Thank you Geri!
Erica Dalglish: that sounds like a great series. will the transcripts be posted?
You: I think solomon arranged for credit in the UK
Solomon Cortes: This is a great programme.
Solomon Cortes: We haven't talked about transcripts yet. Materials will be available, but I anticipate that these seminars will be in voice. What are everyone else's views?
Ida Recreant: Great series--I'm looking forward to it!
Ida Recreant: Can we record them?
Erica Dalglish: i'm going to have to miss the first two, and I am really interested in the topics
Julynn Lilliehook: Like via Skype on the media stream?
Prana Jun: Are all the programs held here at this location?
Geri Kuhn: Yes, all will be here.
Henri DeCuir: Technically, yes, we can record them and then try to encode it down to something smaller, like an mp3 file, to be stored on the webpage. That may present some problems though, so I think we'll have to look into it.
Solomon Cortes: In principle, I'd have no issue with that, but I'm just one of the speakers. We can ask the others, though. Is there someone here who would be willing to offer to help with making sure that all sessions that are 'recording approved' are recorded?
Ida Recreant: I don't know much yet, but I'm learning about this myself--I'd be willing to help if someone else can also--I cannot attend every session.
Solomon Cortes: Thanks Ida. Maybe if one or two others would be willing to heolp, you could co-ordinate to ensure that someone covers each session, at least?
Ida Recreant: Sure, I could do that.
Prana Jun: I think you voice, but having the material in a line reader would work best.
fenriz Abramovic: I think if we open a dedicated topic in the fortum with materials an transcrypting it will be a good idea
Ida Recreant: Could those interested in helping IM me; add me as a friend so I can work with you?
Ida Recreant: Fenriz, that might work.
Solomon Cortes: Ida, thanks - that would be great: really appreciate your help with this.
Solomon Cortes: Unless there are any other comments or questions, let's move on.
Solomon Cortes: Thank you Geri.
Geri Kuhn: Can we briefly talk about dues?
Geri Kuhn: While I'm up here?
Solomon Cortes: Sure, but can you give me one moment?
Geri Kuhn: Sure, actually go ahead, I'l take a seat,.
Solomon Cortes: I'll turn briefly then to the credential verification process (item 3 on the agenda) this is just to confirm that Ben and I have now credential-checked each other, and the application form for verification has been finalised. We have one more action to take, which is to finalise the public information regarding the process, and what 'verification' means. Once we've done that, the service will be available for anyone who wishes to make use of it.
Solomon Cortes: There is just one minor point that has come up.
Solomon Cortes: At the last meeting, we agreed that the application fee should be US$10. Since we want people to pay in L$, our proposal is actually to charge L$3000. We may need to adjust that if there are significant changes in exchange rates. So, I'd like to get the meeting's agreement to this. The motion is that we agre to charge L$3000, subject to review to accommodate any material exchange rate changes. May I have a second?
You: I'll second
Henri DeCuir: As a reference point, L$3000 is slightly shy of $11.25 (after linden charges) when selling at current exchange rates.
Henri DeCuir: Exchange rates, contrary to popular demand, have been stable for the last year, as far as I've been watching. When selling lindens, you can always limit sell at 265 (the best available rate, typically) and will sell within a day.
Henri DeCuir: Excuse me, it's slightly shy of $11 for us.
Solomon Cortes: Henri - that's helpful. When we looked at this last night, the intention was that it should be around $10. Maybe the rate has changed, or our maths was out. We think the figure we select should be an amount in L$ that the association could sell to raise US$10.
Henri DeCuir: 2750, selling at 265 with the Linden charge (3.5%), is exactly US$10
Solomon Cortes: Geri - could you prehaps confirm the appropriate figure in the forums, but in the meantime, could we vote on the substantive issue,?
Henri DeCuir: I'm sure most people won't have a problem with paying a $1 more, but I just wanted to make sure we were getting the technical details accurate.
Solomon Cortes: Unless we can agree now thtat L$2750 is correct?
Henri DeCuir: You can check my math against the limit sell calculator (
https://secure-web2.secondlife.com/currency/sell.php#
).
Solomon Cortes: Yes, Henri. Thank you. I think we should aim to get this right.
Geri Kuhn: It would be good to agree on a fee now., and something rounded.
Solomon Cortes: okay. Geri - you are VP finance. Please suggest the figure you consider appropriate and we can vote on it.
Geri Kuhn: Well perhaps this is less, but 2500 is a nice round figure.
Julynn Lilliehook: and the box is already set up for that
Geri Kuhn: Yes, it is:)
Henri DeCuir: Rounded figures don't seem to be as important as we may intuitively feel. This is a) virtual currency (no counting) and b) the verification box actually just gives you a button that you click.
Geri Kuhn: It is easier to look in our books, though and just see 2500, numbers...
Julynn Lilliehook: well...let's not quibble over less that one US dollar
Henri DeCuir: (2500 will yield US$ 9.09 for us)
Erica Dalglish: just because it is virtual currency, that doesn't mean we don't count it :-)
Geri Kuhn: 2750, is not bad.
Soro Dagostino: ooops
Julynn Lilliehook: LEt's just make it 2750 and be done with it
Geri Kuhn: Yes
Erica Dalglish: amen
Geri Kuhn: Let's do it
Soro Dagostino: I looked.
Julynn Lilliehook: I move we make the vefication fee 2,750 L
Erica Dalglish: second
Theophan Paine: Isecond that.
Solomon Cortes: Okay - so the motion is to approve L$2750, with the VP Finance to have a watching brief if there are material exchange rate movements. Can I have a second?
Solomon Cortes: You beat me to it.
Solomon Cortes: All those in favour?
Julynn Lilliehook: Aye
Henri DeCuir: aye.
You: aye
Ida Recreant: aye
Geri Kuhn: aye
Erica Dalglish: aye
SanPaul Held: aye
Jaxom Winger: aye
Prana Jun: aye
Soro Dagostino: Aye
SLBA Credential Verification whispers: Booting settings from notecard...
Aeleen Tomsen: aye
SLBA Credential Verification whispers: Setting dues to: L$2750
SLBA Credential Verification whispers: Thank you message is now: Thank you for supporting the Second Life Bar Association!
SLBA Credential Verification whispers: Floating text message is now: Right click me and select 'pay' to pay for credential verification.
SLBA Credential Verification whispers: Email message subject is now: SLBA Credential Verification
fenriz Abramovic: aye
SLBA Credential Verification whispers: Done loading.
Solomon Cortes: Just a reminder that the meeting is open to everyone, but the vote is justopen to SLBA members.
Solomon Cortes: All those against?
Solomon Cortes: Abstentions?
Jessica Holyoke: abstain
You: abstain
Lincoln Beck: abstain
Solomon Cortes: Then the motion is carried.
Solomon Cortes: Thank you Geri - and Henri, for helping us getthe maths right, too.
Solomon Cortes: Unless there are any comments or questions on this topic, I'd like to move on to our imminent name change. We voted on this at a past meeting. We need to do it by June 23. It also makes sense to have people renew their dues at the same time. Because of some great work by Geri and Henri, there is the opportunity to move to the new group from today onwards, and Geri can explain the mechanics. Geri - over to you again!
Julynn Lilliehook: You might want to remove those boxes until we are all set up lest someone pay them prematurely
Henri DeCuir: They are set up.
Julynn Lilliehook: well...what if a nonlawyer pays them?
Colleen Kesey: afraid i paid before the meeting started
Julynn Lilliehook: I am afraid we will be constantly refunding money to ppl who do not understand what the verification process is all about.
Soro Dagostino: Since I am a newbie, what is the process?
Ida Recreant: Is verification set up so that before payment the computer asks: Do you want verification that you a member of a bar association?" or something of that sort.
Henri DeCuir: Geri is about to describe it. Be patient. :)
Geri Kuhn: sorry
Soro Dagostino: kk
Ida Recreant: Ooops. Henri; I'll wait'
Geri Kuhn: I got booted off
Solomon Cortes: Welcome back Geri. Please go ahead.
Geri Kuhn: Okay, there are two boxes here
Geri Kuhn: I'm standing in front of the box to renew your dues
Geri Kuhn: Please renew them by clicking on the box and making a payment
Colleen Kesey: has it changed since before the meeting?
Henri DeCuir: No.
Geri Kuhn: the other box is for those people who wish to be verified as an attorney on SL
Geri Kuhn: Verification is optional
Julynn Lilliehook: might help is they appeared different
Geri Kuhn: But if you wish to do it, please click on that and make a payment
SanPaul Held: and what are the advantages to being verified, what ae the benefits
Geri Kuhn: If you make a mistake, I will credit you back
SanPaul Held: other than the obviou sone
Erica Dalglish: good idea, Julynn
Geri Kuhn: The benefit is that the SLBA will verify that you are an attorney in good standing in your jurisdiction...this would be helpful if you wish to practice law on SL.
Jessica Holyoke: are we still doing the referrals?
SanPaul Held: are you going to verify areas of practice?
Solomon Cortes: []- would it be possible to serve a message with the verification box, that double-checks that the individual really wants to pay for this before they do so?
SanPaul Held: for instance can a med mal attorney in RL
SanPaul Held: do crim law in SL
Solomon Cortes: Ast the moment, the only people paying should be those that are applying so that they can then help verify others.
Julynn Lilliehook: odd combo
Geri Kuhn: We can verify what your state bar knows about you
Solomon Cortes: *At the moment...
Jessica Holyoke: Is tht an issue San Paul?
You: there's some info on the website about this
SanPaul Held: WELL YES IT COULD BE
SanPaul Held: ooopss
SanPaul Held: sorry about caps
Geri Kuhn: No problem
SanPaul Held: for instance, an attorney specializing in crim law
SanPaul Held: may not be qualified to write conttracts
Henri DeCuir peers at SanPaul.
SanPaul Held: itis like asking apodiatrist
Julynn Lilliehook ponders how one practices criminal law in SL?
Henri DeCuir: Under the law they probably are...
SanPaul Held: to do brian surgery
Geri Kuhn: We will be verifying that you are an attorney, that's about all we can do.
SanPaul Held: July
Rykk Ferraris: Not really, San...
SanPaul Held: that was an example
Rykk Ferraris: A law license is not practice specific.
You: you can read all about it at
http://www.slba.info/forum/YaBB.pl?board=verification
-- (need a free registration) -- it's been hashed out in prior meetings
Julynn Lilliehook peers at SanPaul
Geri Kuhn: Thanks Cat.
SanPaul Held: thanks Cat
Rykk Ferraris: Unlike medical board certifications
Jessica Holyoke: that is what I was thinking, that a law license allows access to most areas of practice
SanPaul Held: i will go and read it
Solomon Cortes: Please can we stay off the substantive merits / demerits of the scheme. I'm happy to discuss them or for them to be discussed in the forums, but there have been many discussion on this and several votes. We will also clarify what verification does / doesn't mean in the materils I mentioned we'll be working on shortly. For the time being, and so that we can keep to time, this discussion is really about the payment of dues and the move to the new group.
Rykk Ferraris: Yes, about the name change?
Geri Kuhn: The dues issue was also previously discussed in the forums.
Geri Kuhn: And the name change.
SanPaul Held: sorry, i just asked for a clarification
Solomon Cortes: The verification payment box is just up for the moment so that those who will be doing the verifying of oothers can make their payment.
Julynn Lilliehook: I paid
Solomon Cortes: Geri - please can you just confirm the dues payment process.
Geri Kuhn: Sure, so once we receive the dues, we will be adding people to the new group.
Rykk Ferraris: And so those of us full on groups need to delete the current one first
Solomon Cortes: For obvious reasons, I should add that it will not be practical for us to run multiple groups, nor appropriate to do so, given that we approved the name change. This means that all members will be asked to move to the new group, and to pay the dues for doing so. And we will also be ceasing to use the current group shortly. So please do move to the new group!
Erica Dalglish: now i'm confused. do i pay my dues today?
Geri Kuhn: Yes, now is a good time.
Aeleen Tomsen: is it possible to pay the due now ?
Prana Jun: You will be sending us an invitation after we have paid the dues?
Aeleen Tomsen: sorry we crossed :)
Geri Kuhn: We will have to invite people to the new group
Soro Dagostino: What is the new name?
Geri Kuhn: Will do so once we have it set up, but I have a list of people who have paid their dues and will be sending out the invites.
Geri Kuhn: Sorry for the confusion..the short explanation...please pay the dues, you will be invited to the group.
Solomon Cortes: Thanks Geri.
Julynn Lilliehook: SL Bar Association
Rykk Ferraris: Short & sweet: Everyone here today should renew their dues to make it easier on everyone.
Julynn Lilliehook: Can't say Second Life anymore
You: this means the sign in the lobby to joine the group will need to be removed until I'm in the new group :)
Rykk Ferraris: La Deuxieme Vie
Erica Dalglish: i like it
Ida Recreant: Yes sounds very exotic!
Solomon Cortes: And also, we will send some notices to the current group (ie the one we're all currently members of, that is being phased out) reminding you that you need to move to the new group. But please don't rely on waiting for these. There'll only be one or two, and we are going to switch shortly. Please take this now as notice that you need to do this!
Solomon Cortes: Okay, let's move on. Thaks Geri.
Solomon Cortes: Next, Any Other Business.
Solomon Cortes: I have a couple of items, but would like to invite you all to let me know if you have any other business first.
Julynn Lilliehook: What is this SLBA group???Second Life bnusiness Association!
You: if you're interested,
http://slbarassn.ning.com/
is our new social networking site, you can upload pictures, etc
Julynn Lilliehook: I typed in SLBA in the search and it came up first
You: no need to sign in with your "real name" if you choose not to
You: & let me know if you have content suggestions for that or the main website
Solomon Cortes: Julynn, thanks for alerting us to that. We'll take a look. And work out how to co-exist. Of course, we have some good virtual worlds IP / trade mark law sessions coming up in our seminar series, that may help...!
Soro Dagostino: Sorry, I have to go RL.
Julynn Lilliehook grumbles to herself...
Solomon Cortes: Cat - I'm glad you mentioned the Ning platform. It was also my first AOB topic.
Solomon Cortes: As you all may already know we recently set up the Ning platform. I'd really like to encourage anyone who hasn't set up a profile there to do so. And I'd also like to start a debate about how we use it. My view is that it is a great networking tool that can stand side by side with our SLBA forums. But I'd like others' comments. I had one thought, which is that to make it a useful and complimentary resource, I think it would be helpful (a) for as many people as possible to join the network and set up a profile, (b) to make sure that profiles are detailed, and (c) for people to start using the resource for networking purposes. What are others comments / views?
Legal Writer: I think it's a great idea.
Solomon Cortes: (apart from looking at that sentence, it looks like maybe I had three thoughts, rather than just one ; ) )
Theophan Paine: It is a great idea, can we also have a Facebook group?
Legal Writer: We should explore different social networking services.
You: my comment is that I am a member of about 6 or 7 of these and never remember to check the things
Erica Dalglish: me too
You: i set up to email me or RSS me new developments, which helps
Ida Recreant: me too; e-mail notification in digest form helps
You: I don't understand the reason to have a Facebook page too (not that I object)
Theophan Paine: It is free promotion, lots of lawyers on Facebook.
Julynn Lilliehook: Isn't Ning our "facebook" of sorts?
Julynn Lilliehook: Maybe Ning with be the next new thing.
Julynn Lilliehook: sorry
You: i dont know - someone who is social networking savvy might be better suited than I am to discuss it
Ida Recreant: Facebook is more well known; but maybe we could link to the ning site on our individual facebook pages
Theophan Paine: Lots of people used branded versions of ning, are we going to get our own domain name there?
Solomon Cortes: I think that is a good idea, Ida.
Julynn Lilliehook: The problem with facebook is that you will get people wanting to jjoin for many reasons other than being interested in SLBA
Julynn Lilliehook: Like Twitter, I get a lot of ppl following me that are trying to increase their numbers oor are marketing something to me.
Ida Recreant: Twitter . . .another one of my forgotten accounts . . :-(
Theophan Paine: I have no problem with people joining who are just interested, you need to let stuff sink in on the internet before it makes an impression.
Julynn Lilliehook: I suggest we develope the Ning until we reach the point where we are satisifed itis all we want it to be.
Ida Recreant: Yes, I was excited about the Ning page
Julynn Lilliehook: Facebook is a time eater...
Theophan Paine: The trend with social networking is to have a web presence across a lot of sites, to create your own network.
Solomon Cortes: Okay, well, let's all try to use it. One great additional aspect of the page is that it has a virtual worlds news feed that Cat has set up. Let's try to get using the platform. I think it's an ideal place for netowrking, discussing potential SL / RL work / referrals, and so on.
Solomon Cortes: But I think we will have to evolve an approach that makes sure we use Ning for what it's good at, and continue to use the forums for SLBA business and activities, and so on. I have noo fixed views, but feel that both have an important role to play.
Solomon Cortes: My second AOB item was that I think that thanks to many people's input and effort, we've achieved a good deal this year. We have a seminar series, with accreditation shortly in place, we're close to being ready to launch the verification scheme, and we've set up the new networking platform. But I'd like us to continue the momentum. I was wondering what suggestions you all have for what else we should be aiming to do? I'd love some thoughts now, or suggestions on the forums or by IM to me or any of the other officers.
You: any chance of doing a "pro bono" in-world thing, i am not sure what I mean by that exactly
Legal Writer: At some point, we may want to have a "Guide to SL Legal Issues" for avatars, similar to the consumer legal pamphlets put out by local bar associations.
Julynn Lilliehook: Must be careful with that...the law is yet undefined in many areas.
Legal Writer: The law is always in flux, even in RL.
Julynn Lilliehook: However, maybe something to help people prevent getting themselves into binds.
Julynn Lilliehook: Like, how to protect your IP before entereing into a joint venture in SL
Legal Writer: We would just need to update it periodically.
Legal Writer: Sure, there are many potential topics.
Julynn Lilliehook: We could all get involved with the Realy for Life by doing something to raise money..an event...like the snail races
fenriz Abramovic: it's a good ide
Julynn Lilliehook: Or we could raise money for indigent defense or public aid societies by doing an event
Julynn Lilliehook: I did the snail race last month
Julynn Lilliehook: well, sort of
You: someday i have to see this snail race of which you speak
Julynn Lilliehook: They are played on
http://www.slcn.tv
Solomon Cortes: I like the idea of a pro bono event of some sort.
Aeleen Tomsen: sorry to leave , bye
Solomon Cortes: Thanks Aellen. I know we have exceeded our time allocation. Shall we close the formal meeting? Everyone who is interested in continuing the discussion should feel free to stay, though.
Jessica Holyoke: move to close
Theophan Paine: Second.
Solomon Cortes: The meeting is closed.
Solomon Cortes: Thank you everyone.
Created on ... June 14, 2008